Saturday, 24 March 2012
Mists Of Pandaria Insane in the Membrane Guide 5.4
This guide is up to date as of 5.3.0 and will be checked over when relevant patches hit during Mists of Pandaria.
5.2 notes From the patch notes I don't see anything different, its kinda hard for me to tell major changes now that every one of my characters has the title, so if you notice something please inform me.
5.1.0 notes no change, although I will be adding a little info based on Mists of Pandaira Darkmoon Cards in the future. The basic Idea is the same though.
5.0.4 notes As far as I can see in patch 5.0.4 the grind is the same. Where achievement sharing is concerned, all characters on your account will receive your insane title after the achievement is earned. Also as far as I can tell, you will have to earn all parts of the achievement on one character, the progress of achievements does not share between them.
So, I've seen a lot of guides around but none are really that up to date. So I figured I'd make my own.
First off, what is this? Insane in the membrane is an achievement which people farm out to obtain the title "the Insane". It involves obtaining certain reputations which are very time consuming to achieve.
The Reputations we will be grinding will be:
Bloodsail Buccaneers
Ravenholdt
Darkmoon Faire
Booty Bay
Everlook
Gadgetzan
Ratchet
So now you are thinking "wow all these reputations, where should I start?" Don't worry, I have a plan.
First we will start with Bloodsail Buccaneers.
Bloodsail Buccaneers
The target we are aiming for here is Honored. There is no need to go any farther unless you are farming exalted reputations.
A note on this reputation involving Steamwheedle Cartel. Originally you had to be exalted with Steamwheedle and honored with Bloodsail at the same time. More recently some say that this isn't the case, and may have been a bug at a certain point in time. As there hasn't been much response on this subject, to save a load of heart ache I would recommend keeping your Bloodsail reputation at honored during the achievement progress.
Now then, there are two ways we can go about this one. The first will be to find a couple friends, tank and a healer and farm the guards in Booty Bay. Since cataclysm these guards have had a major boost in stats and cannot be killed by conventional weapons.
The second way (which is boring I know) is to farm a single mob in Arathi Highlands. In the Arathi Highlands there is a place which you can see on your map below Stromgarde Keep named Faldir's Cove. In the old days you would have to swim there but now there is a path, and also you can fly now.
The guy we will be killing mostly is Shakes O'Breen, he has an extremely fast respawn rate. The two gnomes in the background of this screenshot will give you slightly more reputation but have a low respawn rate.
Bare in mind that this is probably the easiest part of the grind, and next we will move onto Ravenholdt.
Ravenholdt
The first stage of obtaining exalted with Ravenholdt is to kill Syndicate mobs. These can be found in Arathi Highlands at Northfold Manor and Stromgarde Keep.
For me I found it best to do laps around both areas to allow respawns, as you catch up really quickly. I would start at Stromgarde and go through the bottom level first. After those mobs mount up, fly over the wall to the top level, kill the mobs there, check in the houses. Follow along into the Keep and kill the guys in there. The named npcs don't reward reputation and if a lowbie is questing there I tend to not kill them if I can help it.
After clearing the keep, mount up again and fly over to Northfold Manor. Most of the mobs are in stealth, but can be seen reasonably well by an 85. Go around the farm in a circle and then fly back to Stromgarde, rinse and repeat until you get to 11999/12000 honored.
The next part will involve turning in Heavy Junk Boxes. These have to be Pick Pocketed by a Rogue from mobs usually around the level 50-60 area. The best place to farm these I found was actually in Blackrock Spire. I would stealth in around the first room of UBRS and then head down and pick pocket all of LBRS and on the walk back I could jump down to the ogres and their pockets had respawned. Work my way back up to UBRS again and all those had respawned too. Out of the instance and reset, start again.
If you don't have a rogue, all is not lost, but it will cost you. As I wanted to spend more time grinding my Steamwheedle reputations and less time in BRS I employed the services of a "Dwarf" Rogue (I thought he was a Dwarf, but turns out we are horde and he is Undead). He did a very good service I think 10g per box and I had my reputation up in no time. Its just a case of asking in trade or on the forums really.
You need to have 5 boxes per turn in, and each turn in will reward you with 75 reputation. 82.5 Reputation if you have guild perks. The best way I would recommend to find out how many you need, would be to visit Wowjuju. They have a rep calculator which will tell you how much you need based on perks and racials. All you need to do is insert your name and server and find your reputation, very simple and helpful website.
Now we have that sorted, onto our next reputation.
Darkmoon Faire
Now then, the Darkmoon Faire has become much easier and cheaper to obtain than previously.
Darkmoon Fair will begin on every first Sunday of a month, and end on the next Saturday. So you have a week to do all the daily quests, and profession quests.
The dailys are quite simple really. They reward 250 reputation each, or 275 with perks. A days gain will be 1250 reputation or 1375 with perks. And it will take you roughly 34 days worth of daily gains or 31 with perks. That works out around 5 months.
But 5 months is a long time. Each month you will be given extra quests to do based on what Professions you have, each profession has its own quest which you can obtain at the faire. They are usually quite easy. Also while dungeoning you obtain artifacts which reward a nice amount of reputation. They are as follows:
Mysterious Grimoire
Monstrous Egg
Imbued Crystal
Ornate Weapon
A Treatise on Strategy
Soothsayer's Runes
Adventurer's Journal
Banner of the Fallen
Captured Insignia
All of these can be found on the Auction House, but all drop from somewhere. A guide to farming these has been posted on Wowhead by Perculia which can be found here: Darkmoon Despoiler: A Guide to Farming Darkmoon Artifacts
Now to squeeze in that extra rep. If you aren't fussed about how long it will take, all the above is fine. But if you are really desperate and have no patience at all and a lot of gold doing nothing, then its Darkmoon Cards for you.
Darkmoon cards are collected together to form decks which reward nice trinkets or other things. For an epic deck you will receive 350 rep or 385 with perks, and for a lesser deck you will receive 25 rep or 27.5 with perks.
There are several ways you can go around this. If you have the money to invest I would recommend epic decks, but you will need to find an inscriber. With the epic decks you could possibly make a profit providing people buy your finished trinkets off you. The best way to make these is to buy loads of Cataclysm grade herbs, mill them all up. Turn your Blackfallow ink into Inferno Inks and create loads of Darkmoon Cards of Destruction.
The second way would be to create lesser decks. I found rogues decks to be nice and easy. They require Hunter's Ink to craft, which can be obtained by milling either Bruiseweed, Stranglekelp, Briarthorn, Mageroyal or Swiftthistle.
Epic decks must be turned in at the faire, but lesser decks can be used to summon an NPC from the faire to your location at any time of the month which will allow you to turn them in.
Next on our list...
Steamwheedle Cartel
Instead of listing each goblin faction separate, Its best to do them in one as they tie in with each other.
With this I found the best place was to start in Tanaris. There are two places you can do this in Tanaris, and the best depends on how many people you are with.
If you are alone I recommend the camp behind the Caverns of Time. You can go around it in circles with everything respawning in time for you to get back to each point.
If you have more than two people though, I would reccomend the camp where the fights are going on. This place is ideal to keep you in range of everyone for rep gains. The mobs in the area are on a set respawn, which means there has to be a certain amount of mobs up at one time. So if you are killing everything in sight super fast because there are loads of you at different points of the map, the more respawns you are going to get. I managed to get the last leg of my grind here.
The idea here in Tanaris is to kill until you get your reputation with Gadgetzhan to 11999/12000 Honored.
Once you have reached this, you now need to go to The Barrens. There is a little island here full of mobs which reward Ratchet reputation.
For this part keep watching your Gadgetzhan reputation. The idea here is to get it to exalted while on the island, then return to Tanaris for the rest of the reputation.
The reason here is, each kill for its own faction will stop at a certain point, and you have to max out the reputations with spillover rep. Doing it this way I found to be the least tedious.
Once that's all done, take a step back and congratulate yourself on your new insane title.
Its really simple but the problem is finding the patience to do it.
Websites I recommend in this guide:
Wowjuju Rep Calc
Darkmoon Despoiler: A Guide to Farming Darkmoon Artifacts
Getting my own title was hard work, but I'd like to thank the people who helped me along the way. You will most likely meet people along the way as others are doing the same, be friendly, group up. Good luck everyone.
Stay Frosty
-Professor Clutch... the Insane
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Athína Here, Thank you so much man! :D I hope to be Insane soonish xD :)
ReplyDeleteSo you have to have bloodsail rep on honoured at the same time that you have all of steamwheedle on exalted?
ReplyDeleteI think you do, I have heard people claim that it is not needed. But I'm not sure if that's right. I played it safe and kept my bloodsail rep.
ReplyDeleteThanks for asking though, I should have said something about this in the guide, I'll add something about it after a bit of investigation.
Athína Again dude :D Just got Honored with Bloodsail! Onto the endless hours of Grinding!! xD
ReplyDeleteGood luck dude :)
DeleteDo you have an alt that can show me the Path for the Black Rock pick pocketing bit? it would be much appreciated, if not you could add on real ID and go in together? Peace
DeleteSure, when you log onto wow next, create a character on Draenor and look for either Lauralie, Pasty or Clutchizie. I'm usually one one of those. Then we can talk about it.
DeleteOr Cubed... as im playing that today
DeleteSo.. Much.. Farming..
ReplyDeleteJust to inform you, I grinded rep with me and two buds at the Tanaris location in the part south of the fighting. Me and one guy staying around the houses and farmed that area, while the other guy farmed the patch just south of us. We got roughly 1k rep every 3-5 minutes for Gadgetzan. I started last night and am now revered with Gadgetzan. It also goes to 20,999/21,000 for all SWC reps, which is nice.
Best of luck to you all,
Bloodsail Admiral Lief, soon to be the Insane - Sargeras.
Wow that's quite fast.
DeleteI read in wowwiki that, at some point, you must deliver darkmoon decks to reach exalted. Now, I don't know if this is outdated, but can you confirm this for me? I don't have a ton of gold, nor do I have an inscriptioner so if turning the decks are a must then it will be extremely hard for me to complete it.
ReplyDeleteHi there Psycho, the guide you read is out of date. Since the Darkmoon Faire moved too its own island, you can reach exalted by doing all the quests there, and handing in the items you find in dungeons.
DeleteHope this helps.
The bloodsail grind was definitely the easiest and employed literally no effort - parked my toon at the guy in arathi, put a macro on to click and press 1 overnight and in the morning when i woke up i was capped. Since im a perfectionist however, im going to have to raid booty bay till exalted as staring at an incomplete rep would tear me apart. Maybe im already insane?..
ReplyDeleteHaha you possibly are, although I think the only way to reach exalted is to kill the Baron. This may have changed, I'm not sure. But good luck. x
DeleteU NEED TO BE HONORED AND EXALTED WITH BLOODSAIL AND STEAMWHEEDLE CARTEL AT THE SAME TIME CONFIRMED 21. FEB 2013 PATCH 5.1 MoP
ReplyDeleteHey there!
ReplyDeleteFirst let me thank you for an awesum guide! And thank you for keeping it updated! Now... about this bloodsail and steamwheedle issue - It seems that it is different answers out there. I have seen screenshots of GM's saying that you have to have the rep at the same time, and others saying that you don't.
Here is my reply from GM (2013.06.10)
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This is the latest response from Customer Support:
Hello Miztiq
You had a question about the achievement "Insane in the Membrane". With this achievement you need to reach honoured with blood sail and exalted with the goblin cities.
This achievement does not need both to be active at the same time, only reach it with one at a time. Usually most aim for honoured with blood sail and then work to get exalted with the goblin cities (causing blood sail rep to drop to hated)
Regards,
Games Master Layhcrum
Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
http://eu.blizzard.com/support
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So im gonna go with that.
A tip for those who want the Steemwheedle to go a bit faster is to do a repeatable quest just outside Gadgetzan. Questgiver: Rumsen Fizzlebrack http://www.wowhead.com/npc=16417, Quest: War at Sea http://www.wowhead.com/quest=9268. I got 600 rep per quest. You can only turn that in until Neutral. !!!DONT DO THIS if your not willing to take the chanse about having Bloodsail and Steamwheedle up at the same time, because the quest will take away -500 repu for the Bloodsail for each turn in. !!!
FOR DARKMOON:
I just wanna give a tip of buying the Darkmoon Top Hat http://www.wowhead.com/item=93730 before u do the dailys, grants u +10% exp and repu gains for 1 hour.
Happy Grinding
(lol)
This is exactly what i got from the "War at Sea" quest:
DeleteReputation with Gadgetzan increased by 600.
[06:50] Reputation with Ratchet increased by 300.
[06:50] Reputation with Booty Bay increased by 300.
[06:50] Reputation with Everlook increased by 300.
[06:50] Reputation with Bloodsail Buccaneers decreased by 500.
Need to say im human and in a lvl 25 guild, so i get a little boost in the repu.
hi, sorry for my late reply, blogger doesn't alert me to new comments.
DeleteDid you go ahead and try it obtaining them separately? It was always an argument that some GMs told you you did have to, and some told you that you didn't.
You don't have to go to Ratchet to grind rep. I went from hated with all factions to exalted by just grinding pirates in Tanaris. The problem is the Booty Bay or Everlook rep (depending on how you do it), so there's no point in getting rep with Ratchet in particular.
ReplyDeleteIt is also worth noting that you can get a Darkmoon Tophat or the Wheel buff during the Faire to increase rep gains by an additional 10%. This increases all Darkmoon Faire rep you'll earn on the island AND it works well with Ravenholdt rep if you keep your lockboxes and turn them in during the Faire (with the buff ofc.)
Finally, there's a type of meat (worgen something, can't remember) that gives anyone who eats it "Track humanoids" for 1 hour. This is slightly helpful during the Steamwheedle grind and it's incredibly helpful during the first part of the Ravenholdt grind. You can see mobs in the houses, stealthed mobs, mobs behind walls etc. It almost doubles your speed.
Blackened Worg Steak, there it is.
DeleteAhhh, and I forget to mention the quickest way to get Bloodsail rep. Complete the BB quest lines up to the quest "Doublerum". The city should phase out to become under attack during this quest. During this phase, the guards are all level 35 (or around there). They don't give any rep, but all other npcs in the city give 6 rep (30 for the bankers and that BB leader guy). Their respawn rates are amazing and you don't have to be careful of anything. It is by far the fastest way as long as you haven't already done all the quests there.
ReplyDeletewow 10g per box?! no way i can afford anywhere near that. i'm just gonna try to level my rogue and do it that way. i am finding that rogues are really fun in pvp so i'm glad i started using one. already got steamwheedle cartel to exalted on my main so i'm getting there..
ReplyDeleteYou definitely do not have to have both reps at the same time. For those of us too lazy to read all of this I found this youtube video to be very helpful. Creator added lots of little shortcuts too which saved me days of farming/grinding.
ReplyDelete/watch?v=dm2d6CLNppg
This may be something that has changed since I started making this guide, im going to investigate.
DeleteHello. This is very good guide, it helm me alot, but I gotta one question: Is there a chance to raicing the Cartel reputations with quests at some point when I am friendly or honored with some of the towns ?
ReplyDeleteHey :) well, as there is some dispute as to if you have to have bloodsail rep at the same time. I personally didn't want to take the risk. However if you did want to take that risk then by all means you can try.
DeleteI'm thinking about playing it safe too - How do you get exalted with Steamwheedle Cartel without losing reputation with Bloodsail Buccaneers?
ReplyDeleteI actually love you. Started this tonight and this guide has been amazing <3
ReplyDeleteBeen gone from the game for over 2 years now. Before I left I had all reputations exalted except Bloodsail Bucs. I have a very old toon in vanilla wow there are a lot of quests for the steam cartel. So it torched my rep with bloodsail almost none recoverable. 17000/36000 hated. My question is since the achievements are account based now. If I got my faction up on another toon with bloodsail would it give me the achievement. Any ideas would be great thx
ReplyDeleteReally good guide.
ReplyDeleteI started the Insane achievment years ago (I don't play that much), I guess I started it while in early Lich King expac.
Now I am far on the road, only Ravenholdt remaining, getting boxes.
Your guide is outdated, but still really good and useful. Thank you for the info.
Best way to get junkboxes is actually in the two mines in Alterac valley off the Trogs and Kobolds. They can be pickpocketed and you will get Heavy Junkboxes!
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